Ordinary leaders doing extraordinary things
Ordinary leaders doing extraordinary things
The Ecosystem Approach: Unlocking Organizational Support for Behavior Change with Katie Thomas
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In this episode of The Art and Science of Influence, Katie Thomas explores why leadership development often fails to create lasting change—and why real transformation depends on more than just training.
Drawing on her expertise as a business psychologist, Katie explains how habits, identity, and the surrounding environment shape leadership behaviours. She shares practical strategies for embedding lasting change, including using environmental cues, "if-then" planning, and creating workplace ecosystems that reinforce new ways of thinking and leading.
Whether you're an L&D professional, HR leader, or people manager, this conversation offers practical insights into designing development programs that create sustainable behavioural change and long-term organizational impact.